DRAFT                                       Town of Turner, Maine

Planning Board Minutes

September 8, 2010

 

1             CALL TO ORDER

Called to order at 7:00pm by Chairman Ms. Margaret Imber.  Those Members present were Ms. Imber, Shirley Twitchell, Mark Morris, Roy Nickerson and Raymond Lavoie. Board Member R. Edward Morris arrived at 7:07pm.  Planner, John Maloney was present this evening.  CEO, Roger Williams was also present this evening. 

 

2              PUBLIC HEARING-LEDGEVIEW SUBDIVISION-PROPOSED 13 LOT OPEN SPACE

                SUBDIVISION

 

Ms. Imber opened the Public Hearing at 7:01pm.

 

Mr. Doug Johnson of Brian Smith Surveying Inc. is representing this project this evening.  Mr. Johnson stated that the applicant is Mr. Glen Dube.  This proposed subdivision is for 13 lots located off of County Road.  Parcels A and B will be deeded to Mr. Dube’s two children.  There was a discussion regarding the approval by MDOT five and ½ years ago of a 400 foot road to be called Ledgeview Drive.  It was then stated that there will be a second road of 300 feet to be called Frog Pond Lane, this road will be a private road.  There was then a discussion regarding the fire pond which will be located behind lot 11.  It was then stated that this parcel is 35.05 acres and that 18.5 acres will be open space.  It was stated that there is a bog located at the front of the property and all DEP restrictions will apply to this area.  There was a discussion regarding the snowmobile trail.  Mr. Dube stated that he is willing to work with the Snowmobile Association.  Ms. Dorothy Irish asked what types of homes would be allowed on this property.  Mr. Johnson stated that there would be no restrictions. Ms. Irish then asked if there would be a Home Owners Association and would there be restrictions in the supporting documents.  Mr. Johnson’s answer was yes there would a Home Owners Association and there would be restrictions in the Home Owners documents.  Mr. Alan Johnson asked what the lot size would be.  Mr. Johnson stated 30,000 square feet and that parcels A and B were over 80,000 square feet.  Mr. Jordan then asked about the 2 acre rule.  Ms. Imber responded by stating that an open space subdivision has more flexibility.  Mr. Maloney stated that an open space subdivision could have 20,000 square foot lots.  There was then a discussion about how the town standards were set and how these standards were voted on at the annual town meeting.  Mr. Steven Irish asked if these lots would be sold or rented.  Mr. Johnson responded by stating that the intention was to sell these lots, but there was the possibility of renting one or two lots.  Mr. Irish then stated he was an abutter on the north side and was concerned as to what he would be looking at.  Mr. Johnson stated that pine trees were a possibility.  Mr. Paul Wood stated that he was concerned about dogs running around.  Mr. Johnson stated that there would be a clause in the Homeowner Rules about nuisances.  Ms. Twitchell then stated that the Association Rules are enforced by the Association and not the town.  Ms. Irish then stated she was concerned about the possibility of junk cars, junk motorcycles, etc. being allowed.  Mr. Johnson stated that the Planning Board will know what all of the restrictions will be prior to this plan being approved.  There was then a short discussion on site distances.  Mr. Maloney then reviewed the next steps to be taken with regards to this project.

 

Seeing no questions from the audience Ms. Imber closed the Public Hearing at 7:25pm.

 

 

 

 

 

 

                 PUBLIC HEARING-APPLE RIDGE SUBDIVISION-PROPOSED 12 LOT

                 RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION

Mr. Maloney recused himself from hearing this project.  Mr. Ferg Lea is representing this project on behalf of AVCOG.

 

Ms. Imber opened the Public Hearing at 7:26pm.

 

Mr. Mike Gotto of Stoneybrook Consultants, Inc. is representing this project this evening.  Mr. Gotto stated that this subdivision will be located on General Turner Hill Road.  It will contain 86 acres and there are 12 lots proposed.  It was stated that this subdivision would be a standard subdivision with 6 lots on the roadway and 6 back lots.  There would be 3 driveways to gain access to the back lots.  There was then a discussion regarding water and septic requirements as well as deed restrictions.  Mr. Terry Badger asked some questions regarding the 60 foot wide right of way and the 12 foot driveway.  Mr. Gotto stated that the driveway will be a 12 foot gravel driveway.  There was then some discussion regarding access to the back lots.  It was asked what type of homes would be allowed.  It was stated that mobile homes would not be permitted but that modular homes would be permitted and that 2-story homes would be permitted with a size of 2,600 square feet.

 

Seeing no questions from the audience Ms. Imber closed the Public Hearing at 7:35pm.

 

Mr. Maloney returned to the Planning Board meeting.

 

3               OLD BUSINESS:

A              LEDGEVIEW SUBDIVISION-PRELIMINARY PLAN

Mr. Doug Johnson of Brian Smith Surveying Inc. is representing this project this evening.  Mr. Maloney began the review of the Application Completeness Checklist for a Major Subdivision Preliminary Plan.  Mr. Maloney stated that Item 4 had been received.  With regards to Item 14, Mr. Johnson read a letter from a well driller and it was stated that there were no issues.  It was stated that Item 20, location of zoning boundaries affecting the subdivision still needed to be provided.  It was then stated that Items 25. 38 and 39 had been provided.   A statement for Item 44 had been provided.  There was then a discussion regarding Item 46, location of farmland.  It was stated that the soil survey should be reclassified to show farmland soils on the plan.  There was continued discussion regarding farmland soils.  It was stated that the location of the farmland soils need to be on the plan.  There was then a discussion regarding the snowmobile trails.  Mr. Johnson stated that the applicant would be flexible in working with the Snowmobile Association.  There was then some discussion regarding the fire pond and the possibility of a dry hydrant.  There was then a discussion regarding liquidated harvesting laws.  It was then stated that the wetlands delineation had been provided and that there were some drainage issues that needed to be looked at.  Ms. Imber asked if there were any issues with financial capacity.  Mr. Maloney stated that there were no issues with regards to financial capacity.  It was then stated that Items 20 and 46 still needed to be provided as well as a statement addressing liquidated harvesting laws.  Ms. Twitchell made a motion to accept the Application Completeness Checklist for a Major Subdivision Preliminary Plan while noting that Items 20 and 46 as well as a statement addressing liquidated harvesting laws still need to be provided.  Ms. Twitchell stated that these items must be provided in two weeks from this evening.   Mr. Lavoie seconded the motion.  The Board Members voted unanimously to accept the Application Completeness Checklist for a Major Subdivision Preliminary Plan while noting that Items 20 and 46 as well as a statement addressing liquidated harvesting laws still need to be provided.  Mr. Maloney then began the review of the Application Completeness Checklist for Street Construction.  Mr. Maloney stated that Items 4 and 13 had been received.  Item 17, curve and property line radii of intersections needed to be provided.  With regards to Item 19 it was stated that the utilities would be overhead.  Item 21, lines/dots at 50’ intervals to the center line still need to be provided.  Mr. Maloney then stated that the notes regarding the culverts were acceptable.  There was a discussion among the Board Members as to whether this Checklist should be considered complete.  It was determined that since Items 17 and 21 still needs to be provided that the Planning Board would not find the Application Completeness Checklist for Street Construction complete this evening.

 

B               JOAN BRYANT-DESCHENES-SITE REVIEW

Ms. Joan Bryant-Deschenes was not present this evening. 

 

C               APPLE RIDGE SUBDIVISION=PRELIMINARY PLAN

Mr. Maloney recused himself from hearing this project.  Mr. Ferg Lea is representing this project on behalf of AVCOG.

 

Mr. Mike Gotto of Stoneybrook Consultants, Inc. is representing this project this evening.  Mr. Lea addressed the Planning Board and referred to his Email dated September 3, 2010.  Mr. Lea referred to the Application Completeness Checklist for a Major Subdivision Preliminary Plan.  This Email addressed some issues on Items 13, 27, 35 and 46 as well as his notes (copy of Email attached).  There was some discussion regarding the maps provided as well as to liquidated harvesting laws.  There was also a discussion regarding shared driveways and a cross section of what the driveways would look like.  Mr. Gotto stated that he was in agreement to Mr. Lea’s suggestion regarding Item 13.  There was then a discussion regarding Mr. Lea’s suggestions for Item 27.  Item 27 on the Checklist refers to a Drainage Plan.  The discussion included the possibility of water issues on lots 8, 9, 10 and 11.  Mr. Gotto stated that he did not believe a Drainage Plan was needed.  There was a discussion regarding providing an Erosion Control Plan.  Mr. Gotto agreed to provide this plan; however Mr. Lea stated that this type of a plan was not acceptable.  There was then a discussion regarding that a statement be provided from the applicant/consultant regarding any and all drainage issues would be acceptable.  It was agreed by all that such a statement would be acceptable with regards to Item 27.  Item 35 was then found complete.  There was then a discussion regarding Item 46, location of farmland.  It was determined that soils mapping would be needed on the plan.  There was then a discussion regarding liquidated harvesting laws.  Mr. Gotto stated that all harvesting had been done by the previous owner.  There was a short discussion regarding gravel depths.  Ms. Twitchell then made a motion to accept the Application Completeness Checklist for a Major Subdivision Preliminary Plan as complete.  Mr. Lavoie seconded the motion.  The Board Members voted unanimously to accept the Application Completeness Checklist for a Major Subdivision Preliminary Plan as complete.  There was then some discussion regarding site distances, homeowners paying for power installation, farmland soils as well as the naming of the proposed roads. 

 

Mr. Maloney returned to hear the balance of the Planning Board meeting.

 

4                NEW BUSINESS:

A               HAROLD BROOKS-SUBDIVISION AMENDMENT

Mr. Maloney addressed the Planning Board and stated that this amendment was for Dow Farm Estates North Subdivision.  The reason for this amendment is to increase the size of the building window on lot 2.  On August 31, 2010 Mr. Brooks provided documentation from Joseph Noel that based on current accepted methodology for wetland delineation the area for the building window could be enlarged as to not encroach into regulated wetlands.  Mr. Maloney then stated that this is Amendment 2.  Mr. Maloney then reviewed the Findings of Facts and Conclusion of Law.  It was stated that this new plan supersedes the original plan.  Ms. Twitchell made a motion to accept Amendment 2 regarding lot 2 which corrects a problem with the wetland delineation on the original subdivision plan.  Mr. Lavoie seconded the motion.  The Board Members voted unanimously to accept Amendment 2 for Dow Farm Estates North Subdivision,

 

5                OTHER BUSINESS

None

 

6                 CEO REPORT

No action necessary. 

 

7                 REVIEW OF THE MINUTES FROM AUGUST 11, 2010

Ms. Twitchell made a motion to accept the Minutes from the August 11, 2010 Planning Board meeting.  Mr. Lavoie seconded the motion.  The Board Members voted 4 in favor and 1 abstention to accept the August 11, 2010 Planning Board Minutes.  Mr. R. Edward Morris abstained from voting because he was not present at the August 11, 2010 Planning Board meeting. 

 

8                 REVIEW OF PLANNER ESCROW

No action required.

 

9                OTHER ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA

Ms. Imber stated that a reporter from the Sun Journal would be present at the next Planning Board meeting.  It was then agreed upon by all the Mr. Maloney would be the press liaison.

 

10              ADJOURNMENT

Motion made by Ms. Twitchell for adjournment, unanimously accepted.  The meeting adjourned at 9:21pm.

           

 

      Respectfully submitted by

 

 

      Karen Wilcox

      Recording Secretary